First Pinnacle, now Neteller and Citadel. It looks like Western Union is going to be the only way to send to an offshore account, and a check in the mail is going to be the only way to receive. Guys, this is looking worse and worse every day.

I've heard, through no experience of my own, that when you send money through Western Union to an offshore book they make you send to an individual's name and not the company. That seems shady to me. You would have no proof that you sent your book any money. Only proof that you sent "Molly Jones" money. This is not good.

Is ATMOnline still an option?

Western Union cut me off over a year ago because they had a rep call me and ask why I was sending money to Nicarauga, Panama, and so forth. So me being Mr. honest I'm told them the truth and they said I am blackballed from further transacions in my name. You can have someone else send the money for you, but I feel it would only be a matter of time before they catch up.

Good Luck

Yes, sending money to an individual is how it works. I asked BetCRIS support last night how I could deposit now that Neteller has abandoned the US. I was told I could use Western Union. They gave me the name of an individual in Manilla, Phillippines! I am supposed to do a money transfer to him in US dollars, then report the 10 digit MTCN (money transfer control number) back to BetCRIS. They will then process the payment.

Hopefully some other method will materialize. There is too much money involved ... someone will step in and take Neteller's place. Or am I being too optimistic?

I use Instacheck/Echeck, its ike and EFT they draw right out of your checking account...It's easy in and easy out. (Bodog)...However I am currently not able to deposit.."due to technical difficulties" I will keep you updated...otherwise this a fantastic way getting/recieving cash....only drawback its Bodog!!

Careful how much you send at once because when you send more than 5000 I believe they ask you for your social security # along with your dl for tracking you down

something will happen in favor of the gambler. there is too much money involved. some big company will save the day for us.

I hope so, 2381. We need something to happen.

"Technical Difficulties" afraid not. E-check is no more. I assume you can still receive funds via echeck but Im not even sure about that. Im starting to feel like we are being treated as heroin addicts by our government. Can someone tell me why Americans voted these people into to office not once but TWICE? I am sick to my stomach. Canada looks better and better all the time.

what about moneybookers? Its almost like neteller and I havent had problems with them, but I live in Denmark and don't know if they operate in the US

Denmark is still a free country my friend. We live in a paranoid society where freedom is something we fight wars for but do not give to our own citizens. Something has gone terribly in the United States. You're lucky you live in Denmark and not in this country.

i cashed out a rather large sum of money from betcris last night using e-check, today the money is in my bank account no problems....

So you think cashing out will remain the same but sending echecks has now become impossible. I guess I better start winning. My bankroll management will be forced to improve considering sending is becoming so problematic. Maybe this is a good thing that is happening.

i think theyre letting us cashout what we got in there while we can, then i think they will ban u.s. customers also. to me this is a sign for us.

Isn't the main problem the books are having is how to receive money and how to send money. They will find a way around this problem won't they. They are not breaking the law by accepting wagers. I thought that any book operating in Costa Rica would be Ok in the end. Should I really start to plan on the end being near for all sportsbooks currently in operation.

I think that Western Union is so Global they wont cave in to U.S. potitics. The Off-shore will continue to take money from anyone.Start with less than 1 g and send it to john doe in Istanbul, just be sure to keep transaction # and Western's receit so you can get your money back if mr. doe screws ya. It takes a few minutes once you call for account to activate. To recieve could take at least 10 days.

i live in orlando and there are a bunch of local books. is it that hard to get one in other places?

I'm not quite sure how it will pan out, thats why i cashed out in betcris just to be on the safe side..gonna just wait a little and use the local if need be and wait and see if anything happens..

good decision. If I had a local I would take the same approach. This is all very confusing and totally unacceptable.