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markinc7
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"In their losses they played top tier running backs. A. Peterson, M. Lynch, and S. Jackson recently. Even though they have a very good run D teams with premium running backs have been able to beat them."


Sounds like a "TREND" to me.

Definition of TREND


1 follow a general course

2 to show a tendency

3 a prevailing tendency

Everything in the world of life TRENDS




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"In their losses they played top tier running backs"



While in their losses they did play well known running backs, it was not necessarily the play of those backs that had as big effect on the outcome of the games as it would seem just looking up and down at their past results, rather it was how the San Fran offense failed to tally points against the defense of those teams, tallying just 10.5 PPG in those losses. Lets take a closer look than the name on the back of the jersey at those losses.

WEEK 3 loss @ Minnesota 25 attempts/86 yards, Minn RB's tallied a total of 113 yards on 34 carries (3.32 yds/rush), and the "top tier" back 86 yards on 25 carries.

WEEK 6 loss vs. NY Giants the story they allowed 151 rushing yards, but hard to blame the SF rush defense for Alex Smith throwing 3 picks and the OL allowing Smith to be sacked 6 times

WEEK 13 loss at St/ Louis : The Rams "top Tier" back lit up the San Fran defense for 48 yards on 21 carries. A safety and Defensive Touchdown were the story.

WEEK 16 loss @ Seattle: This game was a complete blowout in a predictable letdown spot after the niners had gone to New England and left with a big victory, Seattle did however run for 176 yards on 39 carries.

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I looked up the super bowl history and found a little odd nugget. Twice the line pushed and only once has the favorite won the game and not covered (1989). Either the dog wins outright or the favorite covers. How about a bet on both. For instance:
$80 BAL+160 ML
$108 SF-3.5-108
You risk $188 to win $20 either way.

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And if SF wins by 3 or less?




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Didn't NE win and not cover a couple of times?

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yes....NE -7 beat Carolina 31-29 in SB 39




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tdbabe

Do you have a link you can post to the ATS information?

I'm lazy!

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http://killersports.com/nfl.py/home?sid=guest

Go to NFL query matrix link at list on left side.




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Thanks tdb. I'ts been a long time since I was on this website and had forgotten all about it.

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You're welcome.




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Super Bowls

1. NE won but didn't cover against Carolina in 2004.
2. NE won but didn't cover vs Philly in 2005.
3. Pitt won but didn't cover against AZ in 2009.

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Thanks RD.
I didn't remember the Pitt game




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I heard today that after 46 superbowls,


It is all tied up at 23 heads, 23 tails on the coin flip.


so much for tails never fails




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This site posted a list of Super Bowl winners from the beginning with an odds report to the right showing favs/dogs that beat the spread. I haven't checked all for accuracy, so feel free if you desire to do so. Just putting this out there because it is a topic in this conversation.

Sorry, I forget how to make it link, so copy and paste to your browser window.

http://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/super-bowl-odds




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http://www.predictem.com/nfl/previous.php

[.u.r.l.].link.[/u.r.l]

remove the dots tdbabe..

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Ohhh, that's right....thanks point!




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I know I was drinking the other night... I must have been drinking a lot. My post is not very accurate. Fortunately I was smart enough to not gamble while drunk. Now where did I put that scotch?

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" Lets take a closer look than the name on the back of the jersey at those losses."

Good research.

I do wanna say that I was only mentioning that Baltimore has a shot in the game because they have Ray Rice and SF has lost games vs teams with big time RB's.

I do not think it is what the RB's do in the game, I think it is the threat of what they can do that changes the complexity of the game for the 49ers. That was what I was saying. ATL/NE/GB did not have a premium running game threat and it made it easy for the 9ers to deal with the aerial attacks.

Balt is a different kinda beast was my point. They are much more dangerous to SF than even GB/ATL/NE because they have the running threat. A real running threat in Rice, not an average back but a very talented dangerous runner who must be respected. It changes the dynamic of SF's defense and that gives Balt a shot.

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Tots

"WEEK 13 loss at St/ Louis : The Rams "top Tier" back lit up the San Fran defense for 48 yards on 21 carries. A safety and Defensive Touchdown were the story"



In the tie just a few weeks earlier, the same "top tier" back ran for 29-101 and a TD.

Still, it is not about what they did, it is about the threat.

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