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How do you feel about the NHL ending the lockout?
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Awesome! It will be great to have hockey back! |
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I couldn't care less either way. |
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It sucks! I wish the league would have just folded. |
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StatFox Jeff
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Registered: Jan 2003
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NHL is back... Finally!
It appears that they will be playing hockey again starting in the fall.
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NEW YORK (AP) -- The NHL and the players' association reached an agreement in principle Wednesday on a six-year labor deal, ending a lockout that wiped out last season.
The sides met for 24 hours starting Tuesday afternoon to hammer out the collective bargaining agreement that will return the NHL to the ice on time in the fall. In February, commissioner Gary Bettman canceled the season, making the NHL the first North American sports league to lose a year because of a labor dispute.
``It's a new day,'' Philadelphia Flyers coach Ken Hitch**** told The Associated Press. ``It's pretty exciting.''
Both sides still need to ratify the deal, a pact that is expected to contain a salary cap -- something players' association executive director Bob Goodenow never wanted. That process is expected to be completed next week, the league and the union said in a joint news release.
If all goes according to plan, a scaled-down draft is expected to be held later this month and training camps will open from Vancouver to Miami in September. Real NHL games will be back on the schedule come October.
``It'll be a great thing to get the game back up,'' Columbus Blue Jackets coach Gerard Gallant said.
It took all night and then some for the final round of negotiations to produce an agreement.
The sides met for 10 straight days in New York, and it became clear Wednesday morning -- the 301st day of the lockout -- that they weren't going to leave the room without an agreement in hand.
The expected salary cap will likely have a ceiling approaching $40 million and a minimum somewhere between $20 million and $25 million.
Player salaries will not exceed 54 percent of league-wide revenues.
Some players in recent days have voiced their displeasure over what will be included in the new agreement.
Bettman warned in February that the offers the union passed up were better than any it would see once a year of hockey was lost.
Just days before the season was wiped out, the players' association said for the first time it would accept a salary cap if the league dropped its desire to link player costs to revenues.
That started a wild week that included the cancellation of the season on Feb. 16 and a false hope three days later that it would be saved. Even Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux -- superstars turned executives -- couldn't resurrect it during an emergency bargaining session in New York.
Negotiations resumed in mid-March.
Bettman promised ``cost certainty'' in the form of a hard salary cap to the owners and he has gotten it.
The landscape of the NHL will be quite different than it was back in June 2004 when the Tampa Bay Lightning skated off with the Stanley Cup in the league's last game before the lockout. For the first time since a flu epidemic in 1919, there was no Stanley Cup champion in 2005.
Now when the league relaunches in the fall, it will do so with a brand new salary structure that keeps high-spending teams such as Toronto, Philadelphia and the New York Rangers in line.
The first order of business after the deal is ratified will be to get a majority of the players signed. The belief is that last season's contracts will be wiped from the books, leaving many players without deals.
Those who are still under contract will have their salaries reduced by 24 percent, a concept first proposed by the union last December. Some expensive players will also be on the market as teams pare payrolls to get down to the cap.
There will also be several rules changes that could run the gamut from the size of goaltender equipment to the installation of a shootout to eliminate tie games.
``Our focus right now, from the coaches standpoint, is we're waiting to see what our roster is going to look like and what the playing rules are going to look like,'' Hitch**** said in a phone interview.
The draft was supposed to be held last month in Ottawa, but the Canadian capital might get to host the event soon.
Canadian phenom Sidney Crosby is the consensus choice to be the No. 1 pick. Where he goes will be determined by a draft lottery that will give each team an opportunity to snag him.
He will certainly be part of the NHL's campaign to win back fans that were disenchanted by the lockout.
The deal finally came down during sport's biggest lull of the year -- the baseball All-Star break.
The NHL probably won't hold such an event until 2007 as next year's All-Star game is expected to be replaced by an Olympic break, allowing for players to represent their countries in Turin, Italy.
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07-13-05 08:26 PM |
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stats
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Registered: Feb 2005
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Do you think they might go to something like the soccer format with 3-way wagering, regulation time, etc?
They are more likely to just count the shootout goals as a single goal making the score 3-2 in your example, but I don't like them changing the game in the regular season (shootout) versus the playoffs (overtime) and sudden death overtime is still the best option. There is nothing like playoff hockey.
I think the 4-4 option with an extra point to the winner they have been using was a good move, but maybe there needs to be some greater distinction for a regulation win versus an overtime win. I don't know what that should be 3 points for a regulation win versus 2 points for an overtime win, or maybe make it 2 points for a regulation win, 1.5 for the winner in overtime and only 0.5 for the loser in overtime.
As you can tell I'm not a fan of shootouts, but I thought there was something like less than 10% of games ending in a tie, so I don't see what the big hangup is with overtime.
And, like some of you have mentioned, hockey is the most predictable game to select winners, but money management and the wagering odds are the most important things to consider.
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07-14-05 08:09 PM |
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Ragtop
StatFox Hall of Famer
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 5517
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Re:Stateside hockey popularity
Most normal male boys who has grown up in the border states and some of New England, have at one time played hockey. It is as normal a thing to do as play baseball in the spring, stickball in the cities or hoops/football in the Fall. I made a statement in another post about kids shoveling off frozen ponds for hours, only to get a few minutes of ice time in before sunset. It is that great a sport to play.It is truely a game that must be played to fully enjoy and appreciate. It is no way like scoccer, that I find boring. Hockey players are the real deal. No wimps, no slackers. These guys are the real deal. They play hurt, they play hard and they play to win. That is why I like to wager on them.
To say that hockey is strictly a Canadian sport is not correct. Its international. Many U S citizens who have ever played this game will almost always enjoy a good hockey game, weather its watchng their backyard kids, a local college team, semi pros the AHL or the NHL.
In my case to be able to love the game and also be able to cap it and win is the best of both worlds. I guess you could say that I missed hockey in spite of the people in the NHL that almost destroyed it. Lets freeze the ice and bring out the nets,pucks,sticks and zebras. Ragtop on hockey as Prof. Riggs would say.
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07-15-05 04:26 PM |
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